Lose Weight by Leveraging Immune Responses

Joel Greene, This Podcast Burns Fat, podcast

The Immune Response to Fat and Fat Loss

Long-Term Success by Finding Balance in Our Bodies


Joel Greene Notable Quotes

“In just about any endeavor, we recognize that the results you get in the lab may not be replicated in the real world because the lab has variables, and the world hits you with everything at once.”
Joel Greene

“A fat cell or fat cells en masse shrink, so generally, we all think, ‘Well that’s fantastic, that’s what we want!’ That may be what we want, but from an ancestral point of view, a survival point of view, that may not necessarily be what the species wants, or what your body wants. Your body, above all things, wants to survive. That’s what it wants.”
Joel Greene

To get our body fat going, what I talk about in the book are these easy-to-do things that you can do, and that’s just feeding substrate to the right guys and starving the wrong guys out, and some of these things are apple peels, or apple peel powder—which is just food for the right guys—and different types of fibers and starches that feed these bacteria. And that’s the first place you start is really getting the gut in line before going to body fat.”
Joel Greene

“When you really play the long game with your body—and I’m just speaking from painful experience—what you begin to see is that things that give you benefits upfront very often bite you in the rear long term. So, you have to take a really healthy, sensible approach to your body.”
Joel Greene


Episode Summary

Fad diets come and go, and many of them have benefits upfront. But if you’re thinking of longevity and keeping healthy in the long run, then maybe these fad diets aren’t the way to go. That said, how should we go about it?

In this episode of This Podcast Burns Fat, we’re talking to author and CEO and Founder of VEEP Nutrition, Joel Greene, to share his story and walk us through the immune response that happens in our bodies when we try to lose weight, and where we can start our weight loss journey to set us up for long-term success.


Relevant Links

Joel Greene – Website | Instagram | LinkedIn

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In this Episode of This Podcast Burns Fat!

  • Omar and Lori introduce the episode’s guest, Joel Greene (01:05)
  • Joel Greene and the story of his health journey (03:38)
    • The disparity of effectivity in vitro in vivo (12:55)
  • Losing weight is injuring fat cells (15:42)
    • Immune-centric health (16:17)
    • What your body wants is to survive (17:34)
    • The extracellular matrix (18:30)
    • The brick-and-mortar analogy (20:00)
    • Heat shock proteins (24:08)
  • What happens when an average person loses body fat (29:03)
  • Losing weight safely (30:12)
    • The weight-reduced state (30:50)
    • Overcoming the energy gap (31:32)
    • Getting metabolism up (32:45)
    • Topical and dietary menthol on turning white fat into beige (34:40)
    • Berberine and fibroblast growth factor-21 (FGF-21) (37:27)
  • The first step to losing the weight to go into the reduced state (39:50)
    • Correlation between the presence or absence of certain gut bacteria and weight (42:10)
  • The two armies in your body (43:56)
  • Gauging your gut health (44:46)
  • What’s in the apple peels? (45:15)
    • The apple and the apple peels (48:03)
  • Joel’s parting advice to anyone who wants to start their weight loss journey (49:05)


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